Re: JCO: Jinx is bitter, but is it just his heart?
<DIV>Hi Ruth,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I completely agree with you. JCO shows characters that follows a predeteminated line and it's like they have no other choice but falling into the pattern. Although at the beginning of the novel, Jinx semed to be preparing himself for something more than what he was supposed to be, as the story unfolds we see a bitter Jinx that tried but could fight the patterns of life. </DIV> <DIV>I realy find Jinx characterization very dramatic and real, except for the part of the murder (or maybe in spite of it), but he seems almost a very close characterization of humanity, those who try, and bleed and suffer but reach nowhere.</DIV> <DIV>It would be nice if you could tell me how you perceive Jinx relationship with Iris. Thankx.</DIV> <DIV>And by the way, i do want to keep talking about this. Bye.<BR><BR><B><I>Ruth Pickering <dragonroots@sympatico.ca></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Hi Joy,<BR>I too really like this book (but I like most of her work for the reason <BR>you cite below) because she seems to be able to<BR>"get inside" her characters so that they become for me, not characters, <BR>but "real people" in all their complexities.<BR><BR>I don't have an "answer" to your questions, but wonder if it matters. <BR>I see JCO writing about people to whom "things happen", and whatever it <BR>is, we get the chance to see, again in all its complexity, the many <BR>responses that people are capable of WHEN those things happen ....... <BR>for a guy like Jinx, the fall WOULD change his life, whether the game <BR>was won or not, but this, of course, would depend on how he chose to <BR>have it change his life, from the one he imagined might happen if he <BR>had won the game and hadn't fallen. (maybe THAT wouldn't have changed <BR>his life as much as he thought i! t might have....)<BR><BR>sorry that's a bit convoluted ....<BR><BR>I'd be happy to get into more conversation about this if you wish, but <BR>I'm guessing others are already jumping in .......<BR><BR>cheers,<BR>ruth<BR><BR>On 8-May-05, at 2:23 AM, Joy Armendariz wrote:<BR><BR>> The whole chapter talks about the struggle, both emotional <BR>> and physical, Jinx went through. i really liked this chapter because <BR>> it seems almost as if JCO was a basketball player feeling everything <BR>> Jinx was feeling (which i've felt too). It seemed that Jinx had the <BR>> game in his pocket, but almost at the end of the chapter something <BR>> happened and Jinx fell after he attempted to score. He falls and we <BR>> know that something really bad is happening. <BR>-------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>Tone Clusters: The Joyce Carol Oates discussion group<BR><BR>To send a message to the group, email jco@usfca.edu<BR>To subscribe, email majordomo@usfca.edu: subscribe jco<BR>To unsubscribe, email majordomo@usfca.edu: unsubscribe jco<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><p><br><hr size=1>Post your free ad now! <a href="http://ca.personals.yahoo.com/"><b>Yahoo! Canada Personals</b></a><br>
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