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Monday, August 23, 2004

Re: JCO: Boys at a Picnic (spoilers)

Yes, that's the one. Thanks for the sonnet! That sheds some light. These are
all familiar sonnets to me, though it's been a long, long time.
Ted

on 8/23/04 6:14 PM, Cyranomish@aol.com at Cyranomish@aol.com wrote:

> Hi, Ted. You mean "The Expense of the Spirit"?
> Here's the Shakespeare sonnet that inspired the title:
>
> Th' expense of spirit in a waste of shame,
> Is lust in action; and, till action, lust
> Is perjured, murd'rous, bloody, full of blame,
> Savage, extreme, rude, cruel, not to trust;
> Enjoyed no sooner but despised straight;
> Past reason hunted, and no sooner had,
> Past reason hated as a swallowed bait
> On purpose laid to make the taker mad:
> Made in pursuit and in possession so;
> Had, having, and in quest to have, extreme;
> A bliss in proof, and proved, a very woe;
> Before, a joy proposed; behind, a dream.
> All this the world well knows, yet none knows well
> To shun the heaven that leads men to this hell.
>
> Guess JCO didn't care much for grad school at Madison WIS.
>
> Cyrano
>
>
> In a message dated 8/23/2004 7:25:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> music@thenightshades.com writes:
>
> << I'd be happy to discuss anything from any of these 3 sources that strikes
> anyone's fancy! BTW I was entertained that By the North Gate has the
> requisite academic-setting story.
> Ted >>
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