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Monday, January 30, 2006

Re: JCO: What's the Hardest Thing You've Learned About Love?

Hi, Cindi. Thanks for the alert. It sounds like a great issue. I still
have the tape from JCO's appearance on OPRAH! when We Were the Mulvaneys came out.
Cyrano

In a message dated 1/26/2006 1:23:07 AM Eastern Standard Time,
pcdennis@adelphia.net writes:

<< In case there's any interest, JCO and six other writers tackle this
topic in the February Oprah Magazine, p 177. JCO writes on "Love, Loss
and Transformation."
>>
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Re: JCO: RE: Female of the Species

Hi, Kim. I remember that story very well, tho I'm too indolent to get up and
see which collection it's in. The runner is coming down a hill, and her
husband is several hundred yards behind her, so the two guys at the bottom of the
hill don't see him yet. One of them steps into the woman's path in a somewhat
menacing way: maybe he just wants to make her swerve around him as a "joke"
or maybe he's going to give her some real trouble. The woman is increasingly
worried as she approaches the two men -- a situation most women have
encountered at one time or other: will this be just a harmless dopey joke or some
unpleasant incident I can't handle alone? As soon as hubby appears on the crest of
the hill, the guy steps back out of the woman's path, which suggests that
whatever he had planned to do wouldn't have set well with hubby. Maybe it was just
his oaffish way of flirting with what at first appeared to be a single woman;
or maybe he intended to trip her or yell some obscenity -- or just yell
BOO!!!-- as she passed by. We never find out. I can't remember the runner's
reaction, aside from relief, but it was a nice little vignette.
Best,
Cyrano

In a message dated 1/22/2006 6:34:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,
kstarrett5@comcast.net writes:

<< There is one story I especially enjoyed and admired -- I believe the title
is The Runner though I don't recall in which volume it was collected. In
this marvelous story a woman is running on a wooded path with her lover from
whom she becomes separated. While running alone she sees on the path up
ahead two men, not running, just standing there. What follows is her swift
transformation from strong, confident woman to helpless victim and it all
takes place in the woman's mind. At the same time she continues to run
toward these strangers seemingly unable to divert her steps or act in any
other way to overt her victimization which she has already resigned herself
to. >>
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RE: JCO: RE: Female of the Species

Cyrano,

That's the one. I believe it appears in Where Is Here?

For me this is such a powerful story because of the woman's seeming
inability to alter the outcome of running toward those men. The story is a
wonderful example of something we see so often in JCO's writing, the woman
who participates in her own victimization -- in this case it is she who
turns herself into a victim.

Kim

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> Subject: Re: JCO: RE: Female of the Species
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>
> Hi, Kim. I remember that story very well, tho I'm too indolent
> to get up and
> see which collection it's in. The runner is coming down a hill, and her
> husband is several hundred yards behind her, so the two guys at
> the bottom of the
> hill don't see him yet. One of them steps into the woman's path
> in a somewhat
> menacing way: maybe he just wants to make her swerve around him
> as a "joke"
> or maybe he's going to give her some real trouble. The woman is
> increasingly
> worried as she approaches the two men -- a situation most women have
> encountered at one time or other: will this be just a harmless
> dopey joke or some
> unpleasant incident I can't handle alone? As soon as hubby
> appears on the crest of
> the hill, the guy steps back out of the woman's path, which suggests that
> whatever he had planned to do wouldn't have set well with hubby.
> Maybe it was just
> his oaffish way of flirting with what at first appeared to be a
> single woman;
> or maybe he intended to trip her or yell some obscenity -- or just yell
> BOO!!!-- as she passed by. We never find out. I can't remember
> the runner's
> reaction, aside from relief, but it was a nice little vignette.
> Best,
> Cyrano
>
> In a message dated 1/22/2006 6:34:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> kstarrett5@comcast.net writes:
>
> << There is one story I especially enjoyed and admired -- I
> believe the title
> is The Runner though I don't recall in which volume it was collected. In
> this marvelous story a woman is running on a wooded path with
> her lover from
> whom she becomes separated. While running alone she sees on the path up
> ahead two men, not running, just standing there. What follows is
> her swift
> transformation from strong, confident woman to helpless victim and it all
> takes place in the woman's mind. At the same time she continues to run
> toward these strangers seemingly unable to divert her steps or act in any
> other way to overt her victimization which she has already
> resigned herself
> to. >>
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