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Thursday, September 08, 2005

Re: JCO: Upon the Sweeping Flood

Hi Cyrano,
That is exactly what I meant, about the unsuspected "primitive"
instincts that are experienced through her stories. The nightmarish
images of rapes and shootings, a young girl with her throat slashed, all
unthinkable such a short time ago, seemed straight out of a JCO story.
Thanks for your response. I too am feeling nostalgic for the 20th
century.
Jane
----- Original Message -----
From: <Cyranomish@aol.com>
To: <jco@usfca.edu>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 4:01 AM
Subject: Re: JCO: Upon the Sweeping Flood

> Hi, Jane. "Upon the Sweeping Flood" is a prime example of the kind
of JCO
> story wherein a "normal, decent" person discovers -- while under
unprecedented
> stress -- that he/she contains heretofore unsuspected reserves of
violence and
> "primitive" instincts. The widespread civil breakdown around the
recent
> hurricane is a frightening illustration of how fragile society really
is. At
> first -- up here in Boston -- people were chuckling at the image of
people
> stealing TVs during the floods, but that quickly gave way to
speechless dismay when
> the silly luxury-item thefts turned into rapes and fights over food
and
> drinking water. Personally, I have a renewed appreciation for
civilization
> post-Katrina. (I'm also feeling increasingly nostalgic for the 20th
century :>}) I
> don't think I'm the only person who is now pondering a game plane
should such a
> catastrope strike my own region. For example: can I perform basic
first aid?
> Do I have an escape route in mind? Do I have relatives or friends in
other
> parts of the world who would be willing to host me and my family for a
few
> weeks if we lost everything we had?
> JCO has never lost sight of the fact that many Americans live a
> relatively protected life from the miseries that plague many other,
less affluent parts
> of the world.
> Cyrano
>
> In a message dated 9/7/2005 1:48:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> jward1108@hotmail.com writes:
>
> << The first time I read Upon the Sweeping Flood, I could not
understand
> the ending. I now have a hard time reading about the crazed
protagonist
> beating the life out of the boy. Watching the horror on TV about such
> things happening on such a massive scale in New Orleans made me think
> again about this story. JCO's realistic portrayal of senseless
tragedy
> captured that sense of horror.
> Jane >>
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Re: JCO: Upon the Sweeping Flood

the story is collected in the 1993 ontario press book
"where are you going, where have you been - selected
early stories" at the least.

it may be in others but i don't know for sure.

cheers

rob

--- Cyranomish@aol.com wrote:

> Hi, Silvia. I have an old paperback of the JCO
> short story collection, which
> is entitled UPON THE SWEEPING FLOOD. The title
> story, which is the last one
> in the book, story may have been collected in other
> anthologies since then,
> but I don't know where. I'm sure other people on
> this list can help.
> Good luck,
> Cyrano
>
> In a message dated 9/8/2005 5:18:08 AM Eastern
> Daylight Time,
> smorales_es@yahoo.es writes:
>
> << I haven't heard of that story. Where can I find
> it? Thanks! Silvia
> >>
>
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Re: JCO: Upon the Sweeping Flood

Hi, Silvia. I have an old paperback of the JCO short story collection, which
is entitled UPON THE SWEEPING FLOOD. The title story, which is the last one
in the book, story may have been collected in other anthologies since then,
but I don't know where. I'm sure other people on this list can help.
Good luck,
Cyrano

In a message dated 9/8/2005 5:18:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
smorales_es@yahoo.es writes:

<< I haven't heard of that story. Where can I find it? Thanks! Silvia
>>
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Re: JCO: Upon the Sweeping Flood

I haven't heard of that story. Where can I find it? Thanks! Silvia

Re: JCO: Upon the Sweeping Flood

Hi, Jane. "Upon the Sweeping Flood" is a prime example of the kind of JCO
story wherein a "normal, decent" person discovers -- while under unprecedented
stress -- that he/she contains heretofore unsuspected reserves of violence and
"primitive" instincts. The widespread civil breakdown around the recent
hurricane is a frightening illustration of how fragile society really is. At
first -- up here in Boston -- people were chuckling at the image of people
stealing TVs during the floods, but that quickly gave way to speechless dismay when
the silly luxury-item thefts turned into rapes and fights over food and
drinking water. Personally, I have a renewed appreciation for civilization
post-Katrina. (I'm also feeling increasingly nostalgic for the 20th century :>}) I
don't think I'm the only person who is now pondering a game plane should such a
catastrope strike my own region. For example: can I perform basic first aid?
Do I have an escape route in mind? Do I have relatives or friends in other
parts of the world who would be willing to host me and my family for a few
weeks if we lost everything we had?
JCO has never lost sight of the fact that many Americans live a
relatively protected life from the miseries that plague many other, less affluent parts
of the world.
Cyrano

In a message dated 9/7/2005 1:48:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
jward1108@hotmail.com writes:

<< The first time I read Upon the Sweeping Flood, I could not understand
the ending. I now have a hard time reading about the crazed protagonist
beating the life out of the boy. Watching the horror on TV about such
things happening on such a massive scale in New Orleans made me think
again about this story. JCO's realistic portrayal of senseless tragedy
captured that sense of horror.
Jane >>
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